Reclaim Your Body with Women’s Fitness Expert Jana Barrett

Reclaim Your Body with Women’s Fitness Expert Jana Barrett



SPEAKER_1: You’re listening to She Grabs The Mic, and I’m your host, Cole Baker-Bagwell.

SPEAKER_1: Every week, we’ll explore what it means to be happy, present and whole.

SPEAKER_1: You’ll hear from courageous women who are kicking ass in their lives, and leave with actionable tips that you can apply to reset from toxicity, tune into your gold, and live powerfully from the bedroom to the boardroom.

SPEAKER_1: Right now, it’s time to grab your headphones, kick back and relax, and get ready to be inspired.

SPEAKER_1: Welcome, Amazing Ones.

SPEAKER_1: I am thrilled that you are here!

SPEAKER_1: By tuning in, you’re saying yes to yourself, yes to your life, and yes to all of your possibilities.

SPEAKER_1: You are saying yes to the agency and power that you have to create your very best life.

SPEAKER_1: So welcome, welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_1: All right, this week, I have such a huge treat for you.

SPEAKER_1: Our guest is the incredible Jana Barrett, and she is joining us all the way from gorgeous New Zealand.

SPEAKER_1: Jana is a super cool woman, and I know you are absolutely going to love to hear her She Grabs The Mic story.

SPEAKER_1: This woman has got so much practical wisdom to share.

SPEAKER_1: Jana is a surfer, she is a mom of three, and a fitness and movement coach who is redefining the training industry and turning it on its ear.

SPEAKER_1: Here’s how.

SPEAKER_1: She’s helping athletic women over 40 years young transition from exercise that leaves them feeling broken, burned out or bored into a new way of training that, imagine this, honors their bodies.

SPEAKER_1: Jana offers women training that is more aligned with their biology, their age and their stage of life.

SPEAKER_1: This woman is on a mission to empower other women with training that puts our needs at the forefront so that we can make our rotations around the sun with more strength, confidence, grace and good health.

SPEAKER_1: Welcome, Coach Jana!
SPEAKER_1: Thank you so much for joining us.
SPEAKER_2: Thank you so much for having me, Cole.
SPEAKER_2: Oh my gosh, that introduction sends shivers down my spine.

SPEAKER_2: Thank you.

SPEAKER_1: It’s all true. You’re welcome.

SPEAKER_1: I’m so thrilled that you’re here and thank you for, let’s see, so you’re a day ahead of us and it took us some time to get this, these time zones figured out, but we are here and this is wonderful because man, what you have to share is gonna be so great.

SPEAKER_1: Before we get into your She Grabs The Mic story and the nature of your important work, I would love for you to connect us with what led you to surfing.

SPEAKER_2: So I grew up in the middle of Europe in the Czech Republic and there’s no ocean in the Czech Republic, but somehow, I don’t know if I may be left by the ocean in my previous lives, but I was always deeply drawn to the ocean and I always thought that it will be incredible to surf.

SPEAKER_2: But obviously I had to wait a very, very long time to be living in a country where I can see the ocean and access the ocean really easily.

SPEAKER_2: So I only started when I was 40 because it was on my bucket list for so long and I turned 40 and I thought, if I don’t do this now, it’s gonna be harder and harder and harder to get into it.

SPEAKER_2: So yeah, it was always on my bucket list for some bizarre reason, even though I grew up without ocean.

SPEAKER_2: I don’t know, I just kind of fell into it or was drawn to it somehow by some invisible force.

SPEAKER_1: I love it.
SPEAKER_1: So what does it represent for you in your life now?
SPEAKER_2: It’s incredible, calming component of my life.

SPEAKER_2: When I’m in the ocean, I feel so deeply connected to the earth, to nature, to the energy of the ocean.

SPEAKER_2: I feel incredibly grounded in the air.

SPEAKER_2: It’s incredible for my mental and emotional health.

SPEAKER_2: Obviously physical health as well and the thrill of catching a wave.

SPEAKER_2: And when you’re on that wave, you are really one with the ocean because you and the wave are working together.

SPEAKER_2: You are in sync, in harmony.

SPEAKER_2: And it’s like this beautiful, reciprocal, energy that you are creating.

SPEAKER_2: So for me, it goes so much deeper than just catching waves and physical prowess.

SPEAKER_2: For me, it just goes so much deeper.

SPEAKER_2: And I think that the ocean is feminine.

SPEAKER_2: So I feel like I am connected to mother earth, mother nature.

SPEAKER_2: And then I’m somehow absorbing the energy because the ocean is never still, right?

SPEAKER_2: There’s ebbs and flows, just like the female body.

SPEAKER_2: There is different seasons, there is storms, sometimes it’s really calm.

SPEAKER_2: So I think that it ultimately really represents a feminine energy in its purest.

SPEAKER_2: So I love being in it and submerging myself in it.

SPEAKER_1: That’s beautiful.

SPEAKER_1: What would you say to women who are listening who are 40 plus, revolutions around the sun, who have been waiting to try something, maybe it’s not surfing, maybe it’s something else.

SPEAKER_1: What would you say to them about going for it?

SPEAKER_2: I would say just go for it.

SPEAKER_2: I know it’s scary.

SPEAKER_2: It’s really scary to learn a new skill at 40, but you just have to, otherwise your life will just pass you by and then one day you’re gonna be like, ah, I should have done that.

SPEAKER_2: I think that ultimately, you will never regret things you tried.

SPEAKER_2: You would probably always regret the things that you haven’t tried or haven’t done.

SPEAKER_2: So just go for it.
SPEAKER_2: Even if you look like a total fool, it’s fine.
SPEAKER_2: I still look like a total fool in the ocean sometimes.

SPEAKER_1: A beautiful fool in the ocean.

SPEAKER_2: Yeah, it’s okay.

SPEAKER_2: It’s about stepping out of the comfort zone, which is scary as heck.

SPEAKER_2: It’s so scary.

SPEAKER_2: I get it, especially as we get older and we just maybe don’t have as much confidence as we used to.

SPEAKER_2: So yeah, I would say just go for it because life is to be lived and experienced.

SPEAKER_2: And it’s good.

SPEAKER_2: You would always feel good about yourself trying something new and that’s potentially difficult or challenging.

SPEAKER_1: Also, I just think it’s sexy, like a sexy surfer.

SPEAKER_1: Like that’s amazing, you know, like everything you shared about nature and just this ebb and flow of the ocean.

SPEAKER_1: And sometimes it’s calm and sometimes there are storms and what a metaphor for life.

SPEAKER_1: And then, you know, the strength.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, I have surfed before, not like you surf, but I did in my, oh, probably 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_1: And it’s hard.

SPEAKER_1: It’s very physically demanding.
SPEAKER_1: It requires a lot of strength.
SPEAKER_1: But wow, what a huge feat.
SPEAKER_1: What do your kids think about this, about their mom who’s a surfer now?

SPEAKER_2: I think it’s pretty cool.

SPEAKER_2: And they also all surf too.

SPEAKER_2: Or they are all lovers of the ocean.

SPEAKER_2: So I have an 18 year old son who used to surf with me a lot.

SPEAKER_2: And now he’s kind of moved away a little bit.

SPEAKER_2: Then my middle daughter is a real ocean lover.

SPEAKER_2: She doesn’t surf, but she would go and swim basically in any temperature at any season.

SPEAKER_2: So sometimes I will surf in her thickest wetsuit in the middle of winter.

SPEAKER_2: And she’s swimming there in her talks, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_2: And then my 12 year old has just become a really great surfer.

SPEAKER_2: She goes out with me and it’s kind of part of the lineup and is very confident now and is surfing green waves.

SPEAKER_2: So it’s I think the ocean brings us all together because we all love it in different ways.

SPEAKER_2: And that’s really what I’ve always wanted for my children to love the ocean.

SPEAKER_2: They don’t necessarily have to surf, but just swim in it and you know, boogie balls or body surf or just being in it, which is really lovely.

SPEAKER_1: There is a communion that happens when we are in water.

SPEAKER_1: And I don’t think that’s anything that’s too difficult to understand considering that we are mostly water ourselves.

SPEAKER_1: Thank you.

SPEAKER_1: Thank you for giving everyone a slice of, you know, Jana’s surfing in the Netherlands, it’s amazing.

SPEAKER_1: So as you know, Jana, this podcast is a celebration of women who have left a life that they’ve known, made big bold moves to reclaim themselves and create lives that honor them.

SPEAKER_1: And you have done that.
SPEAKER_1: You’re such a beautiful example of this.

SPEAKER_1: You’ve taken such an interesting and intentional journey.

SPEAKER_1: Before we get into your work, I would love for you to give our listeners just a really brief overview of your backstory that led you right here.

SPEAKER_2: I was a full time mom of three children, and I was home for probably almost 10 years.

SPEAKER_2: And my then husband had a very demanding career in the film industry.

SPEAKER_2: So I was basically a solo mom.
SPEAKER_2: And, you know, three children under the age of six, it was definitely hard.

SPEAKER_2: It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_2: Like I look back at it and I think it was, you know, one of my happiest years and it was incredible, but it was hard, you know.

SPEAKER_2: As all the mothers out there can probably, you know, relate to, you know, parenting and motherhood, it’s the most incredible time in your life, but sometimes could be the most challenging at the same time.

SPEAKER_2: And I realized that after 10 years, my body was just destroyed.

SPEAKER_2: I was always in pain.
SPEAKER_2: I was always putting my back out.
SPEAKER_2: I was putting myself on the bottom of the pile as well in terms of my needs.

SPEAKER_2: I was always putting my family first.

SPEAKER_2: And then one day, I just thought that that’s it. SPEAKER_2: I just can’t go on like this anymore.

SPEAKER_2: I need to build my body to be stronger and to recover from the three pregnancies and carrying babies and getting up at night.

SPEAKER_2: And also I realized that I really need to start kind of looking after my own body and myself.

SPEAKER_2: So I hired my first personal trainer.
SPEAKER_2: I did like traditional weight lifting, which didn’t really suit my body.

SPEAKER_2: I was stronger, definitely, but I was also a little bit more broken from it as well.

SPEAKER_2: And then I thought there must be another way to get fit and strong.

SPEAKER_2: And then I discovered TechFit, which is technical fitness, which is an incredible fitness system, which is from the United States.

SPEAKER_2: And it’s all about functional training with kettlebells and club bells and steel mace.

SPEAKER_2: But the huge component of that is mobility.
SPEAKER_2: And that’s what I realized that there was the missing component.
SPEAKER_2: And then I qualified, I certified in TechFit in 2017.

SPEAKER_2: And ever since then, I have been helping women and a few men as well and a few teens to get strong and get fit and lift and move pain free using mobility and functional tools.

SPEAKER_1: God, what a gift and what a big swing you made.

SPEAKER_1: So I hear you saying that, you know, you had the mom thing going, you had the wife thing going, and you chose yourself because you realized like, I’m falling apart here physically and probably a little, I mean, my gosh, mind and body are so connected.

SPEAKER_1: I would only imagine like this was a full self choice that you made.

SPEAKER_1: And then you saw this opportunity, this gap in the training industry, and you have something that you call training like a woman.

SPEAKER_1: What does it mean and why is that so important for women to know?

SPEAKER_2: So I think that just with like many other things, women have been trying to fit into a man’s world and fitness is no exception.

SPEAKER_2: There are those workouts and I’ve done them too.

SPEAKER_2: I’ve done these hardcore weights, barbells, dumbbells, always heavier, always more, always kind of pushing for more performance and measuring your personal bests and gloating about your personal bests.

SPEAKER_2: And that is a very masculine way to exercise.

SPEAKER_2: I mean, the traditional weight lifting really originated in the 60s and 70s in bodybuilding gyms.

SPEAKER_2: And I just can’t believe that women are training their bodies like male bodybuilders.

SPEAKER_2: But a lot of women don’t understand what’s happening in their bodies within the monthly cycle.

SPEAKER_2: So for women that still are menstruating and still have their periods, there is a very big change that happens in their bodies over the month.

SPEAKER_2: And if you don’t understand it and you don’t adjust your training or your sport or your exercise to that, there’s some really significant downfalls that you can experience, like bad PMS and really heavy periods, mood swings, over training, poor recovery, and aches and injuries are part of it too.

SPEAKER_2: And I haven’t learned this until quite recently, really, and I can’t believe it.

SPEAKER_2: I was always running on Monday to Sunday training cycle or six week training cycle or 12 week training cycle.

SPEAKER_2: Little did I know that I actually have to be running on a 28 to 30 day cycle to reflect what is going on in my body and the hormones that are dominant and what those hormones need from me in order for me to feel good and be healthy and be well.

SPEAKER_1: So you have created something called a hormonal guide to exercise.
SPEAKER_1: How did that change for you?
SPEAKER_1: I imagine your experience had something to do with the creation of this hormonal guide.

SPEAKER_1: What did you notice to be most significant when you moved away from the traditional cycles of training that you were in and you stepped into this 28 to 30 day cycle that really did honor the chemicals that were flowing through your body and where your body was across that 28 or 30 days?

SPEAKER_2: Do you know the biggest thing I kind of appreciated was that I was no longer feeling guilt when my body was telling me that it didn’t want to work hard and exercise hard, but I knew that I had some kind of workouts planned out.

SPEAKER_2: And that is what a lot of women tell me too.

SPEAKER_2: I get a message and say, hey, I woke up and I was feeling really tired and my body really, it was really telling me quite firmly, I don’t want to go to the gym and lift weights or I don’t want to go for a run.

SPEAKER_2: So listening to that because you know that that means that you are probably in the second part of your cycle where your progesterone is being produced and you need to be a bit more chilled and not have a lot of stress in your life in order to produce progesterone.

SPEAKER_2: So it’s your body actually telling you, hey, take us for a gentle walk.

SPEAKER_2: Can we just do some gentle yoga class today?

SPEAKER_2: I don’t want to go and run 10 kilometers.
SPEAKER_2: I don’t want to go and do this workout that I had planned.

SPEAKER_2: So for me and for lots of my clients, it was that complete elimination of guilt and feeling lazy and feeling like you are letting yourself down because you are not doing that kind of workout.

SPEAKER_2: So that was probably the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_2: And then the second thing was all those kind of pesky, you know, symptoms of your period approaching fastly.

SPEAKER_2: So it was the PMS, the rage.

SPEAKER_2: We all probably know that the kind of slightly unhinged, you know, emotions all over the place.

SPEAKER_2: But, you know, the kind of the physical discomfort of the, you know, period coming. SPEAKER_2: And then, you know, I’ve noticed my periods are lighter.
SPEAKER_2: They, I get it done and over with much quicker now.
SPEAKER_2: There’s not so much pain anymore.

SPEAKER_2: I also feel like I’m recovering.

SPEAKER_2: So although I’m working maybe slightly less over the month, because I get the bulk of my training done in the first kind of 20 days, and then I tend to ease it off.

SPEAKER_2: So I was thinking, hey, maybe I’m not going to be doing so much work and not getting really good results.

SPEAKER_2: But the opposite is the true.

SPEAKER_2: The reality is that now that I’m honoring my body and I’m exercising in this really beautiful, you know, rhythmical way or, you know, I kind of honor the cycle, I’ve actually noticed that I get better results without actually having to work so hard, which really blew my mind.

SPEAKER_1: So what I hear you saying, and I want to make sure everyone who is listening hears this, that because you are, firstly, you understood how your body worked, which I think, my God, there’s so much opportunity for that in mainstream culture, in education, to teach women these very types of super practical things, right?

SPEAKER_1: It doesn’t matter if you’re a hardcore athlete or if you are a weekend jogger, but understanding how to work in concert with your body instead of in opposition to your body, number one.

SPEAKER_1: And then eliminating those, the self-narratives of I’m lazy, I’m weak, whatever, unmotivated, and just saying, no, today, this is what my body needs to rest.

SPEAKER_1: What I hear you saying, Jana, is that when you made that switch, not only was your recovery time faster, but your results were actually better because you were working in harmony with the natural cycle, going back to the water, right?

SPEAKER_1: The natural cycle and rhythm of your body. SPEAKER_2: Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_1: What do you think in your experience in training women who run the range from a jogger to just a full-on stone-cold athlete, what have you noticed is the tipping point for them when it comes to changing that narrative in their mind to self-love from self-criticism?

SPEAKER_2: I think just understanding that you are a woman and you will never be performing the same as a man, it’s not because your performance will be less, it’s just you will get to it in a different way.

SPEAKER_2: Because I think that the fitness industry, a lot of the things are so ingrained.

SPEAKER_2: It’s so difficult to change the narrative around how women should be trained, how we need to train, how we should demand to be trained from our coaches.

SPEAKER_2: And I’m even really surprised how little coaches, even female coaches know about the female body and how it needs to be trained or how it needs to be nourished in order to perform at its best.

SPEAKER_2: So I think that, you know, just switching the thinking into you, we don’t have to be doing things we’ve always done.

SPEAKER_2: We could just look at it, step back, and look at it with really new objective eyes.

SPEAKER_2: And once you know the physiology behind it, it actually becomes so glaringly obvious that what we’ve been doing has been really hurting women and their bodies for a very, very long time.

SPEAKER_1: God, I’m glad you’re around.

SPEAKER_1: This is amazing.

SPEAKER_1: Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_1: So you talked about women having periods.

SPEAKER_1: Let’s go to the other end of the spectrum and talk about menopausal women, which you call the invisible demographic.

SPEAKER_1: Tell us a little more about that phrase.

SPEAKER_2: Yeah, so I really believe that women that are kind of in perimenopausal and menopause become reasonably invisible.

SPEAKER_2: I think that we really value in society the kind of women in reproductive age, you know, when we are at our peak and we’re beautiful and we’re pregnant maybe.

SPEAKER_2: And I found that you just start becoming quite invisible, like even in the medical industry and just everywhere.

SPEAKER_2: And I think this is the time when we really need to start sharing our wisdom with the younger generations.

SPEAKER_2: Like, I have two daughters.

SPEAKER_2: You know, what a gift and a privilege to share all the experiences and the knowledge that I have gathered about my body and about my place in the world.

And I think that that is slowly changing.
I believe that, I really believe that women after 50 really come to their power. I really do. Like even just seeing it on myself, I am a really different person to what I was 10 or even

SPEAKER_2: So I think that that is the kind of second part of your life. It usually comes with a huge awakening. Women usually change their careers and retrain. They know their purpose.

SPEAKER_2: They are a little bit more bold and ask for what is rightly theirs and what they want. Sometimes it means a breakdown of a marriage, like my experience. Sometimes you just start growing and keep growing and your husband doesn’t.
SPEAKER_2: So sometimes for a lot of women, it’s an end of a marriage or a relationship as well. And I think women in midlife are just beautiful and stunning and smart and wise and

SPEAKER_2: 40 or after 50.

SPEAKER_1: People will say, oh, I wish I was this age or I wish I was that age.

SPEAKER_1: How old do you wish you were, Cole?

SPEAKER_1: I say, this age.
SPEAKER_1: I freakin’ love it!
SPEAKER_1: I put up with zero bullshit.

SPEAKER_1: I speak up for what I want without apology. SPEAKER_1: I have accumulated some wisdom.

SPEAKER_1: I hope there is much more to come.

SPEAKER_1: But I do feel very strong.

SPEAKER_1: And I mean, let’s face it.
SPEAKER_1: After menopause, sex is like no problem because there are no babies. There’s no worry.

SPEAKER_2: I’m very passionate about helping and supporting and coaching women. It’s an enormous joy and privilege.
And it gives me, it gives me purpose in the world and in my life too.
SPEAKER_1: I love that.
SPEAKER_1: I could not agree more.
SPEAKER_1: You know, in my mind, I’m 25.
SPEAKER_1: My spirit is 25.
SPEAKER_1: My wisdom is nearly 55. I will have 55 revolutions around the sun next and I will tell you that I am so damn grateful!

SPEAKER_1: I love this age.

SPEAKER_1: Thank you for loving, for seeing, for being there to help women, you know, the 40 plus revolutions around the sun just become and step into the most badass physical versions of themselves.

SPEAKER_1: Because it does affect everything, the heart and the mind as well.

SPEAKER_1: I know that osteoporosis can be one of the physical manifestations and risks of menopause.

SPEAKER_1: What would you say women need to know about training their bodies to be their strongest, healthiest and fiercest selves during menopause and afterward?

SPEAKER_2: The most important thing to think about after 50 is that exercise should be targeted or should be really done for longevity and health rather than anything else.

SPEAKER_2: And I found from experience that most women are transitioning from that exercising to lose weight and to look a certain way or to, you know, kind of chase after the performance or certain goals.

SPEAKER_2: Women are really starting to switch to exercising for vibrant health and longevity.

SPEAKER_2: So they start looking, okay, well, I’m 50, so I’m kind of halfway through, maybe a little bit less, but I’ve got lots of decades ahead of me.

SPEAKER_2: And I’m at this awesome stage of my life where, as you said, Cole, I don’t give it, you know, two ticks about anything and I’m really coming to my power and I ask and I really firmly grateful what I want.

SPEAKER_2: But this is usually the time where the body starts deteriorating, if you don’t look after it. SPEAKER_2: Betraying you, absolutely, betraying you.

SPEAKER_2: So mentally and emotionally, you are like really on a high, but then you’re noticing the physical, it’s really not there on the same level.

SPEAKER_2: So there’s this real mismatch, and that’s where women are realizing, okay, I really need to put some work into my physical body, because without it, I’m nothing, right?

SPEAKER_2: Because that is the vessel that carries you through your life.
SPEAKER_2: That is the vessel that allows you to experience life and you don’t want to have a body that doesn’t move well, that hurts a lot.

SPEAKER_2: And suddenly you’re saying to a friend, I can’t go for that walk because my knees are hurting now.

SPEAKER_2: So that’s, you know, it’s missing on adventures, it’s missing on experiences.

SPEAKER_2: So women are often realizing, hey, I really need to be putting some good work into my mobility and my strength.

SPEAKER_2: I don’t want to get osteoporosis, I don’t want to get fractures and a broken hip.

SPEAKER_2: I want to just move well and feel well.

SPEAKER_2: So that is the switch that I often notice.

SPEAKER_2: It’s longevity and health and being able to do things that you have always done.

SPEAKER_2: Because once you can’t get in and out of a car or off the floor or off the chair easily, your life is going to become very limited and limiting as well.

SPEAKER_2: So my advice would be look at exercise as your ticket to longevity and a beautiful life lift to the fullest.

SPEAKER_1: I love that.

SPEAKER_1: And you’re so right.

SPEAKER_1: This is the vessel that houses the soul and the light and the energy and everything else.

SPEAKER_1: And it does make you feel old as dirt when you can’t move, right?

SPEAKER_1: I know I was teaching yoga last year and to people of all ages. I was so inspired!

SPEAKER_1: I had a woman in my class who was 78.

SPEAKER_1: Her husband was 81.

SPEAKER_1: And they were there for the very same reasons.

SPEAKER_1: They like to play golf and they said, we need to make sure we can swing the club without suffering for moons after we head out to the golf course.

SPEAKER_1: But it was such a lesson for me to just take that in and really understand the deep wisdom of what you’re sharing that people may have heard, you use it or you lose it, but my thought is true.

SPEAKER_1: What I hear you saying is that, you know what, it’s not about, yes, we want to look our best selves, but it’s more about we need and really should love ourselves enough to want to feel our best selves.

SPEAKER_1: Moving into a focus of mobility and maybe flexibility instead of just building all the big fat muscles and looking hunky-dory in the two-piece bikini, right?

SPEAKER_2: Which is quite nice too, and that comes with it, right?

SPEAKER_1: Yeah, well, it can come with it.

SPEAKER_1: I mean, sure, absolutely.

SPEAKER_1: I mean, this summer, I’m going to be looking for a bathing suit that has a little bum lift in it because gravity is happening, Jana.

SPEAKER_1: I mean, you walk, whatever, and I’m like, okay, it’s fine.

SPEAKER_1: My body’s still working and I am pleased as punch.

SPEAKER_1: Okay, so thank you for that.

SPEAKER_1: You have an amazing perspective that I would love for you to share.

SPEAKER_1: There are women who are in their 20s and their 30s and their early 40s who are listening who will eventually reach menopause.

SPEAKER_1: And you have a really beautiful perspective about it.

SPEAKER_1: Aside from everything that you shared earlier today, what do you think the most important message for them would be as a woman who has gone through menopause and knowing what is possible?

SPEAKER_2: Well, one thing is certain, it will come.

SPEAKER_2: It will come, yeah.

SPEAKER_2: And I think that a lot of the work that you do before you get to this stage of life is really important.

SPEAKER_2: So I think that knowing your body, knowing how it works, knowing what it needs, it’s such a powerful knowledge that will help you later on.

SPEAKER_2: And I also think, you know, being connected and attuned to your body, because I can now tell where I am in my cycle even without tracking it, just by tuning in to how I feel emotionally, mentally, physically, how tired I am, how I feel.

SPEAKER_2: And so if you start really early to really listening and attuning to your body, then chances are that you’re not going to have a really hard time going through the transition.

SPEAKER_2: And again, you know, I have two daughters, 13 and 15, and teaching them this, it’s so potent.

SPEAKER_2: Teaching them when to rest, teaching them when to not rest and go and exercise and you know, when they have those energy bursts.

SPEAKER_2: So I think knowing your body and not try to fit in into some kind of societal narrative about what we should be doing and how we should be exercising and how we should be completely disregarding our feminine wisdom when it comes to our bodies.

SPEAKER_2: I think that is really potent knowledge to have.

SPEAKER_2: And chances are that if you have that and you honor your body and you listen to it and you’re nourishing the right way and you exercise it the right way, then you will go through it with much more ease.

SPEAKER_2: And obviously I know that, you know, I was a mom and it’s all nice and good to tell you, hey, you need to do all these things.

SPEAKER_2: But if you’ve got little humans depending on you, it’s difficult. SPEAKER_2: So to that, I would say just be kind to yourself.

SPEAKER_2: That is such a special, such a small part of your life where you, you know, when you perhaps do need to put other people first because they need you more.

SPEAKER_2: And then know that once you get through that, you will have more freedom and you will have time to catch up on your exercise and catch up on your sleep and do all the things like start surfing or start paragliding or anything that’s on your bucket list.

SPEAKER_2: The time will come, the time will come.

SPEAKER_2: And look forward to it.

SPEAKER_2: You know, like I think we have been told that aging is bad and we have to color our hair and we have to get Botox and we have to do this.

SPEAKER_2: And it’s, no, you don’t.

SPEAKER_2: Aging is beautiful.

SPEAKER_2: And where there comes so much wisdom and beauty and, you know, you can rock that gray hair or dye it if you want to.

SPEAKER_2: But it’s really beautiful part of woman’s life, this transition into that next stage.

SPEAKER_2: You know, they call it the crone stage.

SPEAKER_2: And it can be very beautiful and it can be something to be looked forward to and nothing to be scared of.

SPEAKER_2: It’s awesome, Cole, right?

SPEAKER_2: I recommend it highly. I wouldn’t go back.
SPEAKER_2: You wouldn’t go back, would you?

SPEAKER_1: No. Hell no.

SPEAKER_1: I don’t want to have a period again.
SPEAKER_1: It sucked.
SPEAKER_1: It was absolute misery.
SPEAKER_1: Tampons, pads, periods, ugh, it’s bad. 

SPEAKER_1: Listen, I don’t miss those days a single bit- not at all.

SPEAKER_1: I want to acknowledge acknowledge everything you’re saying.

SPEAKER_1: Let’s talk about,  when you have a baby or when you are pregnant and the hormones are surfing inside of your body.

SPEAKER_1: Let’s talk about after you’ve had a baby because there are women listening who have young children, like little tiny ones.

SPEAKER_1: Hormones are doing, like, acrobatics and all sorts of dances then, too.

SPEAKER_1: And so it is this constant flow, this ebb and flow, just like you described at the beginning, Jana, of going with instead of fighting against.

SPEAKER_1: But I think that having a level of awareness, acknowledging what is happening within you and just having this mindset that this is where I am right now.

SPEAKER_1: And I’m allowed to feel how I feel, and my body’s doing its thing and embracing every single stage because they’re all so different.

SPEAKER_1: So I completely, completely agree.

SPEAKER_1: And I’m so grateful for your beautiful wisdom and your energy and everything that you represent for badass women with more than 50 revolutions around the same.

SPEAKER_1: Before we wrap up, what are three micro coaching tips that you would share with women?

SPEAKER_1: I was going to say over 40, but I’m just going to say with women, period, who would like to start getting in better physical shape by training the way that women should train.

SPEAKER_2: So number one, I would say learn about your cycle and learn about your hormones.

SPEAKER_2: Your mind will be blown if you don’t because our bodies are miraculous and they were designed to perfection.

SPEAKER_2: So number one will be learn how your cycle works if you are still cycling, that is.

SPEAKER_2: But if you are already in menopause, you still should be training in this cyclical nature too because we never stop producing hormones, you know, to like a zero.

SPEAKER_2: You still producing hormones post menopause in your adrenals, a form of estrogen called estrone.

SPEAKER_2: So even if you are in perimenopause and menopause, learn about the cycle and how hormones work in your body.

SPEAKER_2: Number two, I would say do mobility, regardless of how young or how old you are.

SPEAKER_2: I don’t like using the word old, but you know, how many trips you’ve done around the sun, regardless of how many you’ve done.

SPEAKER_2: Do some form of mobility, because that is in my eyes the most potent form of exercise that will allow you to move and live without pain, which is incredible.

SPEAKER_2: And it’s really easy. You can do it at home five to ten minutes a day.

SPEAKER_2: It’s like putting a very small deposit into your longevity bank.
SPEAKER_2: So then when you get to 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, you can just withdraw those.
SPEAKER_2: So that would be my second tip.
SPEAKER_2: And my third tip would be, if you can, do some form of strength training.
SPEAKER_2: This doesn’t mean dumbbells, barbells, gyms, crossfit classes.
SPEAKER_2: This could mean doing some squats at home or doing some gentle push ups against your

SPEAKER_2: It doesn’t have to be anything too crazy, too full on.
It could be just 10 to 20 minute little routines you can literally do from home.
SPEAKER_2: So that will help you maintain your lean muscle, which is again your incredible currency in it’s lean muscle.

SPEAKER_2: Once you lose that, life’s going to become very difficult.
And it’s also your best weapon against osteoporosis, which you mentioned Cole earlier,

SPEAKER_2:Because the reality is that one in every three women over the age of 50 will fall and fracture a bone.

SPEAKER_2: That is a statistic.

SPEAKER_2: And you having healthy, strong muscles that will protect you in the fall and protect your bone, but also having strong bones, that means that you can live your 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s without fractures.

SPEAKER_2: And some of them could be so significant, they could lead to death like hip fracture.

SPEAKER_2: And I’ve seen this on my grandmother, who after the age of 55, kept falling and kept breaking bones.

SPEAKER_2: And in the end, she was so broken that she kind of died just from, I think, broken body rather than anything else at the age of 86.

SPEAKER_2: And I think that was too early.

SPEAKER_2: She could have been here for probably another 10 years. SPEAKER_2: So from experience, these will be the three tips. SPEAKER_2: Learn about your cycle.
SPEAKER_2: Do mobility and prioritize mobility.

SPEAKER_2: And then do some form of strength training, whatever that might look like for you.

SPEAKER_2: But know that you can get very strong and very strong muscles just doing some body weight routines at home.

SPEAKER_2: It doesn’t have to be too complicated.
SPEAKER_1: Those are amazing.
SPEAKER_1: Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, so I know that you are located in New Zealand.

SPEAKER_1: But if women want to reach you, learn more about your work, do you do any sort of Zoom or I know it’s technically not tele-health, but virtual work with women who might want to train with you from elsewhere?

SPEAKER_2: I have clients all over the world because I have many online programs.

SPEAKER_2: I work with women for free inside my Facebook group. SPEAKER_2: I run training coaching sessions there once a week for free for women.

SPEAKER_2: And then I help women through my online programs.

SPEAKER_2: I have a few.

SPEAKER_2: And then you can find some of my free content on Instagram or Facebook and a YouTube channel that I’ve just started recently.

SPEAKER_2: Then you can access some of the modalities that I coach for free and have a little taste.

SPEAKER_2: And then if you want a little bit more deeper support, then you can jump into some of my programs and then access my support through those.

SPEAKER_1: Tell women how to find you, lady.

SPEAKER_2: I have a website.

SPEAKER_2: So just pop on my website, and then you can read a little bit more about my story and see how I coach women and what I do, because I coach women with warrior, ancient warrior weapons, which is super fun, which we didn’t really talk about.

SPEAKER_2: You can have a bit of a look on my website.

SPEAKER_2: You can download some freebies.

SPEAKER_2: I have a complete guide on how to train in sync with your hormones.

SPEAKER_2: Rather than you having to go and Google now how your cycle works and how you should train, you can just download my free PDF guide entirely for free and have a bit of a read.

SPEAKER_2: It’s like 17 pages.
SPEAKER_2: I’m not going to overwhelm you with incredible amount of scientific information.

SPEAKER_2: I simplified a whole bunch of studies and research and books and podcasts that I’ve been consuming quite vigorously for the last few months and put it together into really simple, easy to understand guide.

SPEAKER_2: And you even get a training schedule so you can print it out, put it on your fridge and schedule your workouts according to your cycle as well.

SPEAKER_2: So made it super easy for you.

SPEAKER_2: And if you want to start with mobility, I have a six day free mobility challenge that you can download from my website as well, which will give you six 10 minute videos and a little taste of mobility and what it could do for you in terms of your reduction of aches, pains, rehabilitating injuries and moving without pain and moving with ease.

SPEAKER_1: That’s awesome.

SPEAKER_1: Alright, so I’m going to put your website address into the show notes, but if you could spell it out for the women who are listening today, that would be amazing, because we want them to be able to find you very quickly.

SPEAKER_2: Yeah, so Jana Barrett.

SPEAKER_2: It’s J-A-N-A-Barrett,

SPEAKER_2: That’s my website.

SPEAKER_2: So it’s Jana with a J.

SPEAKER_1: Coach Jana, thank you so much for joining us and for being such an incredible, fierce powerhouse of an example of what’s possible when we have the right information and tools to be our best selves.

SPEAKER_1: I am so grateful for you and the time that you share. SPEAKER_1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_2: Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_2: It’s been such a pleasure and honor to talk to your audience and to you, Cole.

SPEAKER_2: Thank you.

SPEAKER_1: You’re welcome.

SPEAKER_1: And thanks for all the generous tools that you are providing for women to help them get a head start.

SPEAKER_1: This is just absolutely amazing and I’m so happy to know you.

SPEAKER_1: Amazing ones, thank you for tuning in today as well.

SPEAKER_1: If you’re ready to get out of the swirl of stress, fear, and self-limiting beliefs and develop a mindset of confidence and clarity that will help you reclaim your life and yourself, I have an invitation for you.

SPEAKER_1: Head to the contact form on my website,

SPEAKER_1: Tell me what’s on your mind.
SPEAKER_1: Let’s coordinate our calendars and explore what’s possible for you together. SPEAKER_1: And before I sign off today, remember this.

SPEAKER_1: There’s only one you.

SPEAKER_1: And in case no one’s told you yet today, that’s what makes you amazing.

SPEAKER_1: Big love to you all, I’ll see you next week.
SPEAKER_1: And that’s the end of the show today, everybody.
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SPEAKER_1: Until next time, remember to be super kind to yourself and do your very best to leave everyone and everything just a little bit better.

If you’re ready to honor your body by rethinking how you’re training, visit Jana’s website. And be sure to download her free guide “How to Train In Sync With Your Hormones”.